new Schwalbe marathon winter studded tire

Step 1 For Studded Tires, Ride 25 Miles to Seat The Studs

new Schwalbe marathon winter studded tire
According to Peter White cycles, Nokian studded tires required riding for 25-30 miles on pavement to seat the studs because they have poor quality control. I bought a set of Schwalbe tires and they now have the same recommendation. Anyway, it was nice to go test them out, and I rode them easy on the Cherry Creek trail which runs near my neighborhood.

front tire Schwalbe marathon winter studded

First impressions is they are noisy with 240 studs hitting the ground. Overall I think the grip is a little less with studs on pavement than if it was all rubber. It takes away some of the stickiness since the studs are first to contact the road. No matter, I didn’t get them for stickiness on dry roads, but for ice.

While Schwalbe says that you can lose 5-10 studs during this process I didn’t lose a single stud. So I’m happy with that.

With some snow coming later in the week I hope to have a chance to really test them out. It’s going to test me too since it will be in the single digit temps in the morning. Brrr 🙂

Can I Install Schwalbe Marathon Studded Tires As Tubeless?

Since I just got my cyclocross bike with tubeless setup I wanted to mount some Schwalbe Marathon Winter Studded tires on the Stan’s Alpha 340 ZTR rims as tubeless. The studded tires are a little heavier than normal tires and I was hoping for a little weight help from a tubeless setup. Not knowing whether this was OK I emailed Schwalbe late last night and asked the question:

My Email: 8pm last night

Subject: tubeless setup for studded tires Message text: Hi I think I saw this in the FAQ but I wanted to make sure. I just purchased a set of marathon winter studded tires for my cyclocross bike.

I have stans notubes rims and was hoping to use sealant and install them as notubes. The current tires are 700×35 which is the same as the marathons I bought. Wondering if the stans sealant is bad for these tires, I mean will it damage the rubber? Also, is it a big risk to install these tires as notubes setup? Thanks in advance for the response.

Schwalbe Response less than 3 hours later: Don’t Do It

Dear Mr. Norton,

These tires are not designed for a tubeless set-up – we must advise you against this and inform you that should you choose to use the tires in a tubeless manner it will void all warranties.

Please also note that In order to ensure that spikes are permanently fixed, tires should be run in for about 25 miles (40km) on asphalt, while avoiding any fast acceleration or heavy braking.

Regards,

SCHWALBE NORTH AMERICA

First off, kudos to Schwalbe for responding to my question only 3 hours later, in the middle of a weekend! But I guess that settles my question. I’m still installing the Schwalbe Marathon studded tires on the Stan’s Alpha 340 rims, but I’m not going tubeless with the setup.

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What Studded Tires to Buy for Cyclocross?

Now that I have a nice cyclocross bike for my winter riding, the question comes up of studded tires. It didn’t take much research to decide that I needed studded tires. From what I’ve read, there are no tires that will keep you upright without studs on them, if you do any riding over ice. I’ve actually ridden over a few patches of ice on my road bike in the spring of 2013, and did everything I could to keep the wheels straight and stayed off the brakes. It was still hair-raising riding down a hill next to cars and ride over ice.

Fast forward to October 2013 and I look back on a great year of riding to work very consistently, even in torrential rains we had in late summer. I also don’t let cold stop me. I just need something to help out staying upright on ice.

I started reading everything I could find online about winter riding and studded tires. There are some great forums and websites, like Peter King cycles which looks like it might be a little out of date but the same tires he talks about there are still being sold.

Choices

The question is what tires to buy. Winter bike tires in general are made from a softer rubber compound, so you would not want to run with them all year as they will be liable to wear quickly. However in cold temperatures they will last fine. But softer rubber compounds are a given on all the quality brands. Second there are steel studs and carbide studs. Unless you will only use the tires once in a while, carbide studs are much more durable than steel. I’ve read people using steel studs that they will wear quicker than the rubber the tires are made of. So I didn’t even consider tires with steel studs. There may be a lot of brand names but the two that consistently come up for quality of construction and materials, are Nokian and Schwalbe. So I really didn’t even consider other brands for very long.

When it comes to studs, there seem to be like 3 different classes of winter bike studded tires:

1. Heavily studded tires:

These have 300 or more studs in them that are in the center and all the way over to the side of the tire contact area. These tires are good for the heavy snow, ice, frozen slush. They are for people who either ride very roughly plowed areas or off-road.

Tires that fit this category are the Nokian Extremes and Schwalbe Ice Spiker.

2. Moderately studded tires:

These have around 200 studs or thereabouts, and the studs normally extend to the side of the tire contact area. These are lighter tires for better rolling, and can be ridden on plowed streets and trails, and occasional frozen ruts are fine too. They are sort of do-everything studded tires.

In this category are the Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires and some of the moderate Nokian tires like Nokian W160.

3. Lightly studded tires:

These only have studs in the center area of the tire, and 100 studs or less. These should only be ridden on plowed streets and paved trails. If you get stuck in a rut, you won’t be riding out of it since there are no studs on the sides to help you out.

Nokian Hakkapeliitta W106 and A10 are in this category. I didn’t really see anything from Schwalbe that fits this category. I didn’t consider anything else since I wanted carbide studs which are longer lasting than steel.

Getting What I Need

After a lot of consideration and honesty about where I’m actually going to be riding, I settled on needing the #2, moderately studded tires. I ride almost exclusively on a concrete trail, and some on the side of a road. The trail might occasionally have thick ice in places, and I might encounter some slush and frozen slush on the roads. Based on this, I wanted a tire that will do it all.

I went with the Schwalbe Marathon Winter Studded HS396, 700x35c. I found them on Ebay for $140 for a set of brand new ones. Once they arrive I’ll start riding and report back on how well they work!

Schwalbe Marathon Winter HS 396 Studded tires